Social media is rife with blame for the government and the shooting industry, prompting Jason Vanderbrink, the president of ammunition for Vista Outdoor, which includes Federal Premium, CCI in Lewiston , Speer and Remington ammunition companies, posted a YouTube video to put some of the conspiracy theories to rest.
We understand that. No industry can be totally prepared for a sudden unprecedented surge in demand, said Jason Hornady of Hornady Manufacturing ammunition company. The reality is: No one can afford to have an extra, idle factory sitting around waiting for these scenarios.
NSSF, based in Connecticut, represents gun makers and promotes shooting sports. Oliva said that a record 21 million firearms background checks for gun sales were conducted by the FBI in — including 8. He said 8. While the FBI background checks on gun sales help keep a tally on firearms numbers, no one knows how much ammunition is out there — or who has it or for what reasons. The year-old gunman who killed nine transit workers in San Jose, California, this spring had stockpiled about 25, rounds of various types of ammunition for a dozen firearms, according to Santa Clara County sheriffs who searched his house after the attack.
And the Internet is smoldering with hints that some groups and individuals in the United States are arming for the potential of a civil war. The NSSF dismisses the conspiracy theories that the federal government is diverting production for its own ammunition stockpiles, and Oliva notes that the military has its own supply line. They have enough primers now. Many of those new owners are Liberals who want to take your Arms Go figure , I am supportive to those who have awoken to the fact we have a Constitution and what it says and means.
To the Liberals… hope you shoot yourself in the foot. Your so right! I guess we should look at it Better to buy now than not at all. Yes, depriving others the ability to recruit and train young people. No ammo to teach them to shoot with and they lose interest and start playing video games. Does it feel great to contribute to the destruction of the sport? If a civil war does break out there will be a few people with all the ammo and no one to help you! Just saying…..
I experienced it with my grand daughter. Got her started shooting and then the 22 ammo shortage happened because of hoarders…. We can do something else….. Lost a young person that loved shooting,,,,How many more youngsters are the hoarders losing? When you lose the young ones and the older hoarders die off, who will be there? Absolutely no one! In which case, your comment just makes you a worthless pos doosh-bag. I suspect the latter.
I myself, also, believe this is an ammo conspiracy, it seems to go far beyond the simple supply and demand scenario. Yep, I know the Chinese Virus is there, I know millions of new gun buyers are there, I know we have an anti-gunner Fake President Elect on his way, but still. Get real, folks. Its more than what you think… Both sides of the government work together at the top. They divide us to conquer us. This is why they want us disarmed. They are using cvirus as a scapegoat to implement control, and everyone says its for safety.
Those that think they can trade their freedom for a false sense of safety are fools. Here is wisdom, count the number of the beast for that number is that of a man his number is Add it up and it comes to The word itself is 6 letters long so you got Make it your self and keep it to yourself. For the other jackass on here stating Suckers.
War is Right around the corner. And I bet you will be the 1st to drop. I try to give enough ammo to new buyers of firearms so that they can feel the same security in their homes those of us who are long time owners and very well stocked feel also These new buyers are our friends.
I treat them with respect for seeing the light. Sad that it took a national pandemic and literal riots to make people understand how important the 2nd ammendmant really is. Personally I learned my lesson last time ammo got short and stocked up a bit. What me and others like me took for granted is the fact that in the United States we have everything whenever we need, however, chance favors the prepared.
I remember that clearly, and this is 10x worse.. Re up 45! Why would anyone let Caleb Giddings write an article for them knowing he is a piss poor spokes person even for himself. Recoil Web dot com must be doing really bad if they rely on this joker to write for them. That was before they came to the conclusion that the very police that they gave so much power to might become or are a real threat to them.
Many of the intellectuals that may now understand the security provided to themselves or their families By having a firearm in the home are now dealing with the red tape that they created in acquiring such and maybe it will give them pause to think. How does fighting and berating each other help us. Now is the time to show our new brothers and sisters in arms, at arms, with arms that we are the level headed ones and that they are the ones that are ones that were paranoid and overreacted with draconian, repressive laws, rules and regulations.
This crisis is not going to last for ever and while there are many out there that hope this will be the apocalypse of organized societies. I like the way you think. This right here, this is what everyone needs to come to grips with and the kind of attitude that we should all have. I think the not needing more than 10 round statement is absurd.
Just to train every year I shoot about rounds. If I want to take family to the range that number goes way up. I carry a spare magazine on my person always, then one in my car and a few in my safe. If you are only training or carrying a handgun to prevent a one on one assault then maybe 10 rounds is enough….
You need to study more self-defense shootings. Most situations you crystal ball predict for may or may not happen. What if you are at the store and there are multiple shooters like the Wal Mart shooting where a CCW carrier and 2 cops were shot by a couple on the rampage. What if you run into heavily armed Kebold and harris type situation? Home Invasion? If you think 10 rounds is enough you need to do some research and train with a pro like Gabe Suarez. No one will remember your long post either!
Interesting point to understand is that the police department is designed to find and prosecute the person who shot you dead. A burglary goes bad and your dead. You are walking in wrong end of town a little too late in the evening, meet Mr cork screw. Lots of ways to die, none have a story line of police arriving to save you. So you better learn how to save yourself.
Just for life insurance. Trying to figure out who is worse, the YankeeMarshall or Caleb? Or better yet who sucks who off? Is Caleb still making an ass out of himself on youtube? There are a lot more factors driving the shortage than what the author lists. Raw material costs have increased, which is just one alone. I am a manufacturer. To many idiots that bought toilet paper are buying ammo. Stop it now! You are screwing our loyal customers that buy ammo and shoot weekly competitions.
I think all the new gun buyers come from 2 groups ,the people who are scared and no nothing about firearms. At the range. I apologize that the basic consumer watches the news, sees the violence, sees that government either does not care or actively supports it, and wants to defend himself and that means practice with the new firearm. Just sit on your fat ass and hoard ammo while pretending you can somehow defend yourself just because you have tens of thousands of rounds of ammo in the event of an unlikely apocalypse.
Superb article. Likely all correct. However if the feds who are stimulating the economy, are they stifling amo manufacturers? They seem to want to support essential products, so they say, but what is more essential than self defense? Feds should stimulate amo industry, but likely they will not because it is not PC. The trick to never running out of ammo is the same as for making sure you have emergency stocks of food and medical supplies. When I go grocery shopping, we buy a little extra each trip.
The same goes for first aid supplies and other consumables like batteries. Buy a little bit of extra ammo each month, and when the shortage rolls around.
Yup, good advise. We buy household needs on sale and stock up a little at a time. Same with firearms and ammo since The previous 8 years taught me a lesson. I talked with a flag supplier today who still sells Confederate battle flags and he says its his biggest seller! Still waiting on the five I bought for myself and friends who still honor their Southern heritage. Learned my lesson in and I buy more ammo stock when things are quiet and prices good.
These days its good to have several thousand rounds in a variety. I thought it was ironic that sales of that flag were high like ammo and weapons. Honor your heritage? Who got your panties in a bunch. Who cares if he is proud of his Southern heritage. I am too. Your comment about flying the Union Jack is crazy. He can be proud of one and not the other.
Was happy to find it as my stocks were getting low on defensive ammo. Still have plenty of FMJ but will limit my range time to once a month. We may buy all of the guns we can afford. Congress, however, will make sure to price and tax ammo out of existence, except for the protection of themselves and their friends, of course. Everything gun related is difficult to find.
And the cost increases are beyond reasonable. I consider a die set and components a necessary part of adding a new caliber to the stable. Sure do. Ditto here. I have been getting reloading supplies for years and have enjoyed making my own.
It is fun and really cool to know you made it from the components you bought. God bless America!!! Many places are now out of stock for reloading supplies. They were told to register their guns to reduce the rate of crime. Unfortunately they were good sheep, and they turned in their weapons…. Then dictatorship reigned, and they had no way to fight back!!! History always repeats itself, and their is nothing new under the sun. I smell a one world dictatorship where everyone must get the Vaccine in order to buy or sell.
The guns will be a necessary tool if you do not consent to this. This is why they want control over them, and it will be that way until the second coming of Jesus Christ. Then at that point we will finally have true everlasting peace.
Wow, what a long winded explanation! Myeyes started to glaze over! Especially on the internet. If you have the money, who a saying how much it costs? At least they will have been employed for a couple of years, according to you. Time to start dryfiring more. I would also say time to start reloading, except a lot of those supplies have dried up as well.
Overall a good, if gloomy, article, though. Why is Olin stock so cheap? They own Winchester? Bulk ammo tried that shit when there were rumors about banning green tip Just when CA passed the background for ammo, sales soared, but nothing close to a shortage.
Second Attempt. The first had a single URL, which apparently was rejected by the forum moderator. I just bought a new gun. This makes a total of 4 I have. When I found ammo, I bought all I could afford. I got an extra for my guns, and for my new 9mm. I ordered it online, and have to wait 2 weeks to get it. Shelves at the store, and the range, are empty. You did the right thing bro. Marcus I completely agree with you. I have contempt for those who buy ammo to stockpile for profiteering purposes too.
The only ones crying that are the ones that cant get it…still hit or miss with. Anybody that tried to buy. I did. You know what I find ridiculous? You people seem to think that gun ownership an all-or-nothing affair, in both a literal and a political sense, as though there is no place for sensible firearms regulations or gun owners who vote for democrats.
Its time to stop all this petty us-vs-them tribalistic bullshit. F the NRA. Think for yourself. Gun owners should have no tolerance for people who would support the gun-grabbing Democrats — especially if they own guns.
You know what we call someone who masquerades as a member of one group but provides material support to the opposition? A saboteur. In this case; a treasonous, traitorus, saboteur who would undermine our natural rights protected by the Constitution for some free shit and new illegal alien buddies. No more gun control. Not now, not ever.
Repeal the NFA. Never again! Only a stupid person would vote for someone in a political party that is actively working against their best interest. Democrats try to push as much gun control as possible. So if you are a gun owner and vote for a democrat, you are just plain stupid. And it always happens during Demonrat administrations. What is it about you Dems that think you can rewrite the constitution? What do you mean F the NRA.
Think about which organization you would rather send your dues to. Just curious, how much did. Thank you for the answer. The story might hold water if ammunition was in shorter supply, but there is NO supply. Not in stores, not online. There would be smaller inventories and possibly higher prices, but not a complete lack of any ammunition at all, except in less common calibers.
I agree. Like SGA usually has about 50 kinds of 9 mm in stock. Now it is ZERO. This is NOT a coincidence. It s trickling in I saw on gun broker primer going for a box of thousand instead of the normal When basic reloading supplies are hard if not impossible to fine you know things are tough. I reload 45 colt as my boys and I like to do single action shooting. I have all I need to load. With practice rounds approaching.
Primers are a issue but have so good for now. This is a golden opportunity for ammo producers since demand is so great. To think that they cannot ramp up production to meet demand is humbug.
I would use that term to describe those that stockpile for the purpose of profiteering, but not for those that merely acquired enough to buffer their own shooting needs in a time of shortage.
I bought my guns and ammo a long time ago. Well my 2cents is this. Nobody seen this coming not like this. There is a lot of guns and ammo out there in private hands that can be picked up under the right conditions.
I just bought a 9mm. First time gun owner. I walked out of the store with the last 50 round box of ammo. I am going to the range this week. Looks like only a couple of mags will be my limit so I can save a few for home defense.
I am sure there was hoarding. ALL online sources I have checked are out. I was going to join the range as a member, but that would be a waste of money as there is no ammo to shoot. Looks like the gun is just about worthless now. Make it happen grasshopper! I think we are all getting played here. They have had NO shipments for 3 weeks. The real reason is everyone associated with the gun industry are a bunch of GD price gouging crooks.
Tramps and thieves. Complete lack of moral character. Thank you!!!!!!! Finally a comment worth its salt. We are being bent over by the folks we supported for decades. Must be going somewhere besides middlemen and retailers. Come on guys…. And what do I get but a bunch of testosterone and a-holes. But here I am. I found exactly rounds of HP 9mm today online. I can buy FMJ anywhere. I have a Beretta neo and. So somebody needs to get on the stick and get the ammo out there for those of us who just realized we need it.
You turkeys or pheasants or whatever the heck you thing you are need to fold up the feathers and start acting like you want to part of the solution and not part of the problem.
Jimmy- it shows up, and is off the shelf as soon as they get it. AIM had a pallet of 9mm a couple weeks ago, sold out in a few hours. A lot of it is in the pipe but is getting routed to the good ole boys team and straight to GB. I was in that club until I married a young lady from Juarez Mexico.
Donald Trump will do anything to stay in office and turn this country into one of dictatorship. If it serves the Don he will do it including taking your gun away. I voted for him in but now consider him the biggest threat to the 2nd. Boy are you confused!!!! Did you just climb out from under a rock. You need to pull your head out of your butt cheeks! Go ahead and vote for Biteme…. Well you have to pull your head out first!!!!!!!!
I also find it amazing that some gun owners are so stupid that they will vote for a person who said he would come after their guns. And we doubt you voted for Trump in so add liar to the list. He told the masses to register their guns in order to reduce the crime rates. Then later he came out and said the registration was useless in reducing crime. AS a result, everyone was ordered to turn their guns. Go on YouTube and lookup kitty werthmann.
She gives first hand testimonial on this. History will repeat itself, and it is being fast tracked. Stay safe and defend your ground, because you cant trust government traitors to do so, they just want to take from you. This is for Gus. I am a Democrat who recently bought his first gun. I am still a Democrat. Instead, he is violating the Constitution. He lied and said he supported the second amendment. I dont buy the buying new tooling is a risk because these ammo shortages are the norm now days.
Invest now and they will pay off in short order. Besides I am heavily invested in small arms manufacturers. Of 22lr even the top of the line ammo but You do what you have to do to get what you need.
But your supposed to trust the experts. OBEY them is the word they would rather use. Just like with Covid, they use the news and say things like trust the experts, getting the ignorant person who wont question anything to just trust them. Not sure if this is as easy a rebound as Read somewhere that EPA imposed restrictions on lead in , shut down those plants we had stateside.
Now most of the lead production is China, who we happen to be doing the tariff war shuffle with. Brass is in a similar situation, a lot comes from South America where CV 19 has hammered them a bit worse, which in turn reduces the supply line, never mind the demand. Kind of a perfect storm as far as ammo goes. Do you see a shortage on car batteries or anything else with lead in it? Riddle me that Batman. If you were buying two bullets every six years or so, I see your logic, Joker, I just think the bullet industry is a bit more dynamic and more subject to manipulation.
Peace, just my two. I have been reloading for 55 years. My best investment was a Dillon , a Lyman lead pot, and lots of dies and bullet molds. Need I say more? Good for you! You can have them bury you with it. Good for you…you can buy the reloadong components wholesale also making it even cheaper, so I dont get your argument. Ammo is hard to find,it gas ben for about 13 years,unless you have the money to lay down a few grand,you wont get a lot of Ammo,and in case you did not know,just ask your self,who has an unlimited amount of money to buy Ammo?
Bought my first firearm age 11; a P In those days ammo was all over the place and cheap! No matter how much fodder I run through my firearms, I never run low on ammo. I just go out to a firing range and pick up all of the spent brass lying around and reload it!
Take the hint! Learn how to reload. Re:First time gun buyer Dumbacrat. Why do you buy a firearm and then you are going to vote for Biden who says the first thing he is going to do is take your firearms away?
Not to bright! Covid my ass, the sales of both guns and ammo sky rocketed, when these riots as a result of police shootings went through the roof. These are false flags conducted to seize our rights. They sell the sheep a false sense of security so they would sacrifice their rights. DO NOT fall for their trap. The article was well written, very insightful and objectively neutral and presented logical conclusions based on verifiable facts and realistic assumptions.
You understood wtf I said , you little comment on how well this article is written is such BS!!! You understand that little man? And by the way you POS gun owners already have a bad reputation. You must be a millennial , skinny jean wearing little prick like you boy caleb.
Tony and Yoda both responded with half-assed, ignorant, irrelevant, moronic responses. I owned a small mom and pop gun smithing and accessory store up until retirement a couple years ago. The industry is a huge vulture that waits in the dark waiting for the first crisis to happen. Then all of a sudden they are running 29 hours a day producing as much as they can. You see the prices on GB with certain cals being the highest I have ever seen. This is fabricated by the industry it self. Example instead of only ordering AR , we now can order I apologize for not making a whole lot of sense.
All gr fmj. This was my price not retail. So these people paying. Got that from Rain Maker. Please spread the word if you want to to other shooters who have no idea what they are doing. Tell them what Ammo used to cost and how bad they are taking it in the lower regions. Call Academy or your local ammo store , ask when they get their shipments, arrive on that day an hour before they open.
Or they just say fk it and torch the whole place down the way they did WACO. You are what experienced shooters call a pay day. At best consider yourself able to barter for food and supplies with what you can carry but ammo is extremely heavy so your best bet is to keep anything of value in multiple secure and secret locations.
As soon as things are desperate someone, probably close to you, will strip you of everything you have of worth. Your best bet, if you really have a shit ton of ammo which I doubt, is sell it while the price is high and form an escape plan for you and your loved ones. Boat, small plane, fuel, dehydrated foods, etc.
Better to have it and not need it. JHC, you people are absolute rubes. The few magazines I do have loaded have a Unless you literally JUST became a gun owner, an ammo shortage is a minor inconvenience.
And if you did JUST become a new owner then dully recognize the need to get comfortable and proficient with your weapon of choice when ammo does surface. The rest of you jagoffs need to calm tf down. Good one!! Liked it!! But if you all are stocking up for the end of the world. You might want to have a bag of arrows and a bow. Manufactures purposely limit the stock.
I guarantee if you pay attention to the lot numbers, they will be the same next year as the ammo you purchased this year. Same thing happened in Bought my first gun this year after moving to a state that allows edc. Relatively coordinated, brain functioning well, etc….
Figured this would be as simple as TV. Took my first lesson and while I enjoyed it, determined TV is completely fiction. Multiple lessons at least 20 and at least one practice every week at the range. His accuracy was fair at best. Why — not practicing. Wonder if they practice much or at all? Do they even know how to work it? But I would guess the average joe would find this difficult under stress. Looking forward to starting COF soon.
Prices have skyrocketed and some cartridges cost two or three times what they did this time last year. Some of this increase can be blamed on ammo hoarders and an increase in the cost of raw materials, but most high prices are due simply to the laws of supply and demand. The good news is that rising prices are part of the free market process that will allow the supply to catch up to the demand.
High prices provide a natural check on demand, which will eventually allow the manufacturers to catch up. It may take longer than in the past, but some day the Great Ammo Shortage of will come to an end. Until then, try branching out to less common calibers and find friends good enough to hide ammo in a tackle box for you. Delivers larger, more forgiving patterns at close range, while still providing deadly penetration at long distance.
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